Military bans YouTube, MySpace, other sites from network, computers



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I saw this today on the news - it made me sad for our soldiers and their loved ones!

 

May 14, 2007, 3:15AM
Military bans YouTube, MySpace, other sites from network, computers



 

DENVER — Soldiers serving overseas will lose some of their online links to friends and loved ones back home under a Department of Defense policy that a high-ranking Army official said would take effect today.

The Defense Department will begin blocking access "worldwide" to YouTube, MySpace and 11 other popular Web sites on its computers and networks, according to a memo sent Friday by Gen. B.B. Bell, the U.S. Forces Korea commander.

The policy is being implemented to protect information and reduce drag on the department's networks, according to Bell.

"This recreational traffic impacts our official DoD network and bandwidth ability, while posing a significant operational security challenge," the memo said.

The armed services have long barred members of the military from sharing information that could jeopardize their missions or safety, whether electronically or by other means.

The new policy is different because it creates a blanket ban on several sites used by military personnel to exchange messages, pictures, video and audio with family and friends.

Members of the military can still access the sites on their own computers and networks, but Defense Department computers and networks are the only ones available to many soldiers and sailors in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Iraqi insurgents or their supporters have been posting videos on YouTube at least since last fall. The Army recently began posting videos on YouTube showing soldiers defeating insurgents and befriending Iraqis.

But the new rules mean many military personnel won't be able to watch those achievements — at least not on military computers.

If the restrictions are intended to prevent soldiers from giving or receiving bad news, they could also prevent them from providing positive reports from the field, said Noah Shachtman, who runs a national security blog for Wired Magazine.

"This is as much an information war as it is bombs and bullets," he said. "And they are muzzling their best voices."

The sites covered by the ban are the video-sharing sites YouTube, Metacafe, IFilm, StupidVideos, and FileCabi, the social networking sites MySpace, BlackPlanet and Hi5, music sites Pandora, MTV, and 1.fm, and live365, and the photo-sharing site Photobucket.

Several companies have instituted similar bans, saying recreational sites drain productivity.

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Re: Military bans YouTube, MySpace, other sites from network, co

I can see why they are doing it, for security reasons and all that.... how ever, I spent two years in Iraq, and when we first got internet over there, and I could get on to Myspace and see pictures of the Fiance, and send her e-mails, and chat with her it was great. And photobucket was our way of showing pictures to each other. She would post some of her, and of the family, and other thigns from home so I could see them.... and I would post pics of me, adn the guys, and us hanging out, and of the country. I can't imagine going a year without having any of that.

 I admit there is something special about a physical letter... but some places in Iraq, it's just not as easy as it sounds. Sometimes you don't get mail, sometimes, you can't get mail out, sometimes you don't have time to mess with it all. It's just alot more practical to get online, and shoot an e-mail to the family saying "I am ok, and safe, love and miss you" kinda thing.

 There are arguements both ways, I understand that some soldiers "misuse" you tube, and myspace. But I think it helps out more than it hurts. And if you are worried about the Iraqis finding the soldiers cause they are on Myspace... well.... The iraqis are smarter than wegive them credit for. They already know where we are, and what we are doing alot of times. They don't need myspace to find your IP and figure it out.

It's harsh... but it's the truth.



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Re: Military bans YouTube, MySpace, other sites from network, co

I'm actually in favor of this one...and it might seem a little radical, but let me explain why before anyone passes judgement.

Being so close to the Iraqi border makes it so much more real for me now. My boyfriend works less than 3 miles away from the border...yes, only 3 miles. And now that the "Highway of Death" is closed, the only highway into Iraq runs right in front of all of our Military Camps here in Kuwait. It's amazing that the Iraqi's haven't figured out someway to implement IED's along that highway. But I can tell you this, if we can figure out on how to find IP's and the exact spot of where someone is, don't you think that the Iraqi's are going to figure that out too?

I just finished reading a book written by a correspondent from one of the big news corporations about a group of soldiers who get ambushed in Sadr City. Within this publication I read about how families of fallen soldiers were being told of their deaths by random people in the community. No parent should be awakened in the middle of the night by someone other than the appropriate people to tell them of their son or daughters death. No one! The military follows strict protocol when it comes to the fallen soldiers and it should be that way.

There is a man who works w/ Jamie's company that his son was in a Humvee that ran over an IED....everyone in that vehicle died expect for his son who was gravely injured. Now guess where Bill had to see the video of that incident? YouTube is now gladly glorifying and showing that video, which was put on there by the people or group who set up the IED. Don't you think that that's a little harsh? Would you like to see the video that glorifys your sons or daughters death on YouTube? I think not.

As we've all seen breaking into Myspace is not all that unattainable. It's been done and it'll happen again.

Let's start thinking about the safety of our Soldiers and everyone else who is in Kuwait and Iraq to make sure that everyone in America is safe! Yes, it does suck that these soldiers can't get on some of the websites, but thank goodness they still have access to computers at all. Let's stop being greedy and start thinking about the well being of others and not just ourselves here.

I see what life is like here in Kuwait and I can guarantee that the "bad guys" aren't nearly as stupid as you think they are!

I firmly believe that the Military is thinking about what's best for every American & British Soldier in Iraq.

 

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Re: Military bans YouTube, MySpace, other sites from network, co

GeekInThePink wrote:

I firmly believe that the Military is thinking about what's best for every American & British Soldier in Iraq.
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I agree with you on that, they definitely believe they're doing the right thing. I don't think anyone believes that the military is enacting these measures as a punishment for the soldiers.

I also think that, unfortunately, these measures may be necessary.  Dear Gods, NOBODY should be able to watch their child DIE on YouTube.  I'm not a parent, and I'm sitting here with goosebumps at the very thought.  

That being said, it sucks for the soldiers.   I have a friend who served 2 tours over there.  The 10 minutes here and there that he got to spend on Myspace helped keep him connected, kept him sane at points.  He was able to visit his sister's site, and see recent pictures of his niece and his infant nephew, the boy named after him, and, sadly, was able to view pictures from his best friend's wedding, since he was unable to attend.  It may not sound like much, but it meant the world to him while he was there.

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Re: Military bans YouTube, MySpace, other sites from network, co

I guess I'm old fashioned when comes to communicating...I love being on Myspace and having that access w/ my friends and certainly do enjoy being able to see pics and whatnot, but if all these guys and gals are giving their life to fight for our rights, shouldn't we be able to take 30 minutes from our day and write them a heart felt letter instead of relying on Myspace? Have we become so lazy that it's unmanageable for us to print off some pictures and send them along in a card? Wouldn't it mean more to a soldier to actually have and hold a picture instead of just seeing them on a screen?

I'm still thanking the Myspace gods for their creation and will continue to use it, but sometimes the little things like a card or a picture can mean so much more.

Thanks Lady for your comment, it's made me realize that I need to start sending out more of the little things that matter!!!! Smile

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Re: Military bans YouTube, MySpace, other sites from network, co

Don't get me wrong, people sent him TONS of stuff.  I personally can't count how many Kool Aid singles I mailed over there for him (don't ask, it's what he wanted, I just send what he asks for).  I think part of it was that it was something HE had control over.  He wasn't relying on the scraps people sent to him, waiting for pictures to arrive in the oh-so-slow mail, he was able to get them himself.  And, in some ways, I think it made him feel a little closer to "normal", if that makes sense.  You're there, you're experiencing the culture shock first hand.  For him to be able to go do something so normal, so everyday, so American, as logging into his MySpace account, it's a little taste of home in a completely foreign land.

Like I said, I understand, and agree with, why the ban was put in place.  It's one of those things that just plain suck, but there's nothing to be done for it.  Just means those of us stateside need to kick it up a notch.

 

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Re: Military bans YouTube, MySpace, other sites from network, co

 The Kool Aid singles are exactly right for the bottled water that everyone gets, its a small treat/change of pace (a family friend asked his wife to send the crystal light singles for the same reason)

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Re: Military bans YouTube, MySpace, other sites from network, co

Let's hope they know about proxies. That sucks. It's bad enough being away from family without the military making it harder. If you only have access to their network and you're on personal time then it should be ok. A person who wants to divulge secrets can do so without the help of MySpace and YouTube. Anyone heard of e-mail? I mean damn! It would suck to put your life on the line every day of every day only to be told you couldn't communicate with loved ones and see pictures of them. 

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