must have sleep -how to get a baby to sleep through the night


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so i have this 4 month old. all my friends tell me that their 3/4 month old is sleeping through the night. all my older relatives and friends are telling me to put rice cereal in his formula. (ah...the old rice in the night time bottle trick.-works like a charm! HA!) one person has even sugested letting him cry himself to sleep. (something i dont think my husband or i are strong or cruel enough to do) so i went out and tried the new enfimil nightime feeding formula. "gently expands" in babys tummy...yadyyady...BS! it didnt work. i thought about writing the company and telling them to kiss my dark circled red eyes! so as soon as dr said he was ok for rice cereal i stuck some in the bottle. no luck

i think he used to wake up 2 or 3 times a night because he really was hungry. he would slam a 4 ouncer! now he wakes up 3 times a night and takes 45 mins only to finish off only an ounce or two. ive tried to even rock him back to sleep before giving him a bottle because i know hes just not hungry let alone starving. he wont take a pacifier.

this morning he woke up and wiggled and whinned but put himself back to sleep for another 30 mins or so. something else ive been trying to do becasue i know its good for baby to learn to comfort themselves back into sleep.

also i should mention that hubby and i are firm believers that the kids should sleep in their own beds in their own rooms. (as much as that bugs us both -especially when it comes to the baby. it doesnt help that he looks so tiny in his crib)again to help with feeling comfrtable in their own rooms to sleep through the night. the only time they come to bed with us is if theyre sick or scared. the couch is considered mutual ground cause i fall asleep there with the kids all the time! =) at bedtime there are minimal noises and usually a dim lamp or night light so that baby knows this is night time; youre supposed to sleep a while now. its not just nap kinda time. so i feel like i have tried everything in the book. our daughter was a yr old before she slept through the night. i dont want to do that again. anyone have any other suggestions?




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I not a mom (yet), but I have quite a bit of experience with kids of all ages.  Have you tried swaddling him?  When I worked at day care a couple of years ago we got a few babies who got fussy when trying to sleep, or who had trouble staying asleep.  When we tried swaddling them it seemed to really help them sleep better.

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hi zeev! yes we have tried swaddling him. he loves it but ends up kicking his way outta it. even tried those side pillow things to help him feel more secure but ya know, nothing beats falling asleep on mommy or daddy though. thats where he really sleeps the best. or in the car. weve had to put him in the car a few times to get him to sleep.

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My daughter was exactly like your baby.  She would not sleep and when she did she was up about 4x's + a night.  For a good month she was up every hour.  I would get up, rock her to sleep and put her back in her crib. and then she was up the next hour.I had tried the "cry it out" method for 3 days in a row, and she cried and cried and I couldnt handle it.  I hated doing that to her and it didnt work! So I stopped that.  I was desperate at the time of doing that method.

Eventually I just picked her up, nursed her and rocked her to sleep...   However I am still BF and she is now 10 months but about a month ago right around her 9 month check up, she FINALLY slept through the night.  She now maybe wakes up at the very least 1x a night or not at all.  I hope this lasts!

I just ended up sticking it out and did what my baby needed me to do, even though I was going crazy nuts!

I hope you find your remedy, and take lots of naps through the day!

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UPDATE

put a pillow under little mans sheet to elevate his head (hes caught a little bit of a cold)last night and he slept 6 hours straight. hubby had to wake him up this morning. i also had the ceiling fan running. maybe this is just a freak incedent or maybe my son is just as spoiled as my daughter and likes to live in the lap of luxury with the pampering! =)

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I haven't had any problems with night time so I don't have any advice to offer but I would caution against putting a pillow under his sheet since it still creates a soft space for an infant to bury their face and suffocate. Many years ago we had a family lose their only son to the exact same thing. It was devastating because the doctor had told them to elevate Max's head due to a cold so she put the pillow under his sheet too thinking it would be safer.  Instead you might try putting a pillow completely under the head of the mattress. There are even specific pillows sold at Babies R Us for that purpose. We use them in our centers when infants have colds or other developmental needs.

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thanks zoo! yea, its a wedge pillow. we had it for mini. she was pretty sick at around 3 months old. one of those things im glad i held onto for some weird reason. ya never know when it will come in handy.

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I wish I had something to offer, but my sister is going through the sme thing with her 3 1/2 month old.  He seems to sleep best in his swing, for what it's worth. 


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This is just my experience. Don't know if you would be opposed to it, maybe you could try it.

Maybe it's the crib. Both of my boys hated sleeping in their bassinet/crib until they were a little older. My oldest slept in his swing. When he was first born I had this uber bassinet that I paid way too much money for all ready for him. And I was determined that he was going to sleep in it. One day, after a few weeks of NO sleep, he fell asleep in his swing and slept for 4 hours, I couldn't believe it. I moved the swing into my bedroom and he slept, swinging away, a little longer each night. At about 6 months old, he decided that he didn't like sleeping in his swing anymore and he started sleeping in his crib. Then, with my youngest, he wanted to sleep in his carseat. He's almost 10 months old and he started sleeping in his crib about a month ago (but he was preemie and didn't come home from the hospital until he was 2 months old.) Sometimes, you gotta break outta the norm with babies. To get what you need, you gotta let them have what they want lol

Another suggestion: White noise. My baby won't sleep without a fan running, even if it is in the door pointing into the hallway so no one gets chilly.

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thanks! i have used the car seat, swing (x2), but he doesnt always sleep in one of those either. the only thing i wont give in on, and yes my kids have us trained, is the sleeping in our bed. we dont care where else they sleep (as long as its safe of course) becasue we need to sleep too.

we use the ceiling fan sometimes too. just not consistently so ill have to try that more regularly. now that its getting colder i may have to use something else though.

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I won't give in on the sleeping with us either. In bed is the only alone time my husband and I really have, and it's SO hard to break a child from sleeping in your bed once it becomes a habit. My baby does sleep in our room but that's only because we only have 2 bedrooms and we don't want him sharing a room with his brother until we sleeps through the night so that we don't have to deal with two crying children at 4AM lol But he never sleeps in our bed with us.

Good luck! It sounds like you have a tough little man there!

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I remembered a gadget we used.  I'm pretty sure The First Years made it and was called something like Crib Soother.  It looks like a giant clothes pin but it vibrates.  You can clamp it to a crib mattress or cradle or just stuff it under the couch cushion.  It worked wonders with my son who was colic. 

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Uh yah....you can buy those at Adam & Eve too- for half the price Eye-wink

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Almost Evil was seen saying:

Uh yah....you can buy those at Adam & Eve too- for half the price Eye-wink

http://guanabee.com/2008/12/o-baby-budget-baby-bouncer-puts-your-old-vibrator-to-use-saves-money

 

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There are only two pieces of parenting advice I truly feel comfortable giving (because but for the grace of... or who the frack am I and what the frack do I know anyway).  Bit one:  you can never change them you can only change how you manage them.  Bit two:  whatever mommy has to do to be happy, everyone needs to be on board with (maybe with the exception of crack and the gardener).

That said, I know none of that helps you and you want something more tangigle than that.  Both my children were nursed and so I got a whoopin' two hours of sleep out of them between feedings.  And they were big arse babies, too both weighing 8 8 and 21 inches at birth so one would think they would have big arse appetites.  No such luck.  Noshers, both of them.  When we declared that one of them "slept through the night" that meant 4 hours in a row. 

So this is my theory.  Parents fall into this weird competitive thing.  They can't lie about when their kid talks or walks, but they can lie about how much they sleep.  Call me nuts, but I think most people are making $hit up when it comes to their babies sleeping through the night. 

There were nights I would have chewed my own arm off instead of waking the baby the finally fell asleep in them.  I used to climb my tired arse into the crib WITH the baby just to sleep in something other than the rocker.  We did everything to get my daughter (now 13) to sleep.  Including that Ferber crap that resulted in my husband dragging my sobbing, shaking body away from the door to the nursery.  In the end, I adopted one rule; Mommy MUST sleep.  And however the F we get that done, that's what needs to happen.  So yes, many a night my daughter slept between us.  It's not like the we weren't both too exhausted for any action anyway.  So no harm, no foul.

I wish I had a magic bullet for you.  Every baby is different.  I would only say that you have to sleep whatever it takes.  At four months he just wants comforted sleep, too.  It's not a power struggle.  Do what you are comfortable with, but do what you have to do to sleep.  Then tell everyone he sleeps through the night after he brushes his own teeth and puts down the toilet seat.  :)