I am thoroughly disgusted with microsoft



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The more I research, the more corrupt and shady and manipulative the microsoft megacorp is proving itself to be, and I absolutely HATE vista, which came preinstalled on my laptop -- this overloaded, buggy, DRM-laden, incompatible-with-everything, crapware-saddled joke of an OS has been nothing but headaches from the very beginning. This was a brand new computer and you'd never know it. And I highly resent having my activities remotely monitored against my will with what is basically a built-in rootkit, forced to submit to their invasive, draconian effort to "combat piracy."

anyway, the point is, I don't want to give these people any more of my money and I want to be able to have a choice in what is installed on my computer. I thought about getting a mac, but honestly, apple is almost as bad as microsoft as far as business practices go. The biggest tech nerds are all about Linux. Apparantly that's what the government uses, which says alot about its security.... and it's free.

 

Anybody else had it with the windows/mac two-party system?



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Re: I am thoroughly disgusted with microsoft

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The more I research, the more corrupt and shady and manipulative the microsoft megacorp is proving itself to be, and I absolutely HATE vista, which came preinstalled on my laptop -- this overloaded, buggy, DRM-laden, incompatible-with-everything, crapware-saddled joke of an OS has been nothing but headaches from the very beginning. This was a brand new computer and you'd never know it. And I highly resent having my activities remotely monitored against my will with what is basically a built-in rootkit, forced to submit to their invasive, draconian effort to "combat piracy."

anyway, the point is, I don't want to give these people any more of my money and I want to be able to have a choice in what is installed on my computer. I thought about getting a mac, but honestly, apple is almost as bad as microsoft as far as business practices go. The biggest tech nerds are all about Linux. Apparantly that's what the government uses, which says alot about its security.... and it's free.

 

Anybody else had it with the windows/mac two-party system?

 

Doesn't bother me.

I bought this Dell optiplex GX400 used on Ebay and it came with Xp installed over ME (with a ME COA) for $219

 Spent maybe 3 hours strippig out PC Ghost,McFee Anti Virus,Netscape,the history files,turning off and disabling uneccesary president rograms,and running and installing Advast and Spybot S&D which found 33 Malware and 3 trojans ("MCfee friends") and turned off Messanger and Automatic updates before running the Betterinternet weed out tool.

 Now she is at least been around since 1999 acording to to the bios information I found, but after all that XP loads up in seconds and so does Explorer (which I also trimmed by minimizing storage,zeroing out history,and setting dumping temporary internet files to automatic)

 

Point?  New isn't neccesarily better.

 

As a Programmer MS-DOS didn't even phase me...in fact I never learned Windows 1.1-3.1 and only was "subjected" to Windows 95 because it was what my next computer came with (Used the Dos Prompt a lot). My Tandy 25 MHZ P2 with DOS 6.1 is still in fact in running condition and my mom plays games on it occasionally, though with "State of the Art" (at the time} CD-rom Drive and SOundblaster technology she was equipt for the "Rooms of Doom" and still probably can put a Xbox or Wii to shame...lol



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Re: I am thoroughly disgusted with microsoft

so linux and solaris are both available os's. and they are both able to tke the place of windows? sorry if i sound a bit daffy, i'm just a little confused. i thought linux was a computer language.Frown  juliek

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juliek wrote:
so linux and solaris are both available os's. and they are both able to tke the place of windows?

Not if you consider ease of use and software/hardware availability a requirement to "take the place" or replace Windows.. But yes, they are operating systems just like Windows.

There are more than a few OS's out there



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I think that it was the *lack* of choice that was partially responsible for the computer revolution. The fact that for the last 15 years or so there really was only ONE choice made it easy for and customers manufacturers. If during the last 15 years there was a "Beta vs VHS" war i think it would have slowed the growth of the popularity of computer usage.

The sad truth is that today, if you want a computer that you can choose from 1,000,000,000,000,000 software titles, and hardware choices and that is relatively easy to use, the choice really is a Wintel PC (aka Microsoft).. If you get fed-up with security issues with Windows or Microsoft's business practices the 2nd choice is Mac. But for the average user, or even the average above-average user, Linux, Solaris, etc, just are not realistic choices.. it's going to be a two-party choice for quite some time.. Choose your poison.. the Microsoft pill or the Mac coolaid...



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ooh ooh I choose MS,  cause its retarded gunner friendly....LOL

 

 

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Well unfortunately -do to the wide availability of software and peripherals, we are kind of stuck with MS unless you have a lot of time to devote to learning a new OS and how to troubleshoot it.

Once uncle sam coughs up some cash this year, and I purchase another system, I'm definitely going with a linux distro. Not sure yet if I'll dual boot or just dedicate one system to it, but the summer vacation will definitely be spent trying to give myself a crash course.

I have also heard some good stuff about solaris, though it doesn't seem to be as widely used as linux. 

 

 

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molten_chocolate_cake wrote:

, draconian effort to

 you arent making a reference to a fantasy novel character out of dragon lance are you??

 

 

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molten_chocolate_cake wrote:

, draconian effort to

you arent making a reference to a fantasy novel character out of dragon lance are you??

He indeed may have, but the word "draconian" is a real word with origins in ancient Greece :http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/draconian

draconian 

1876 (earlier Draconic, 1680), from Draco, Gk. statesman who laid down a code of laws for Athens 621 B.C.E. that mandated death as punishment for minor crimes. His name seems to mean lit. "sharp-sighted" (see dragon).
 
I learned something - it's where the word "dragon" comes from!
 
Quite frankly, I agree with molten. I've been afraid to get a new PC since I don't want Vista (but I don't trust myself or have anyone trustworthy to install a nice XP onto it) so I think my laptop will be a Mac if only to check my website work and see how it looks to Mac users.
 
Someday we'll have more choices. Once upon a time there were only a few car manufacturers to choose from, and if you didn't like the industry standard, tough. And Henry Ford smooshed competition, too. Now it's almost come full circle since Ford is also buying out foreign brands making it close to the monopoly it once was. But we still have more choices than we did when mass-market automobile technology was the same age as Windows. 
 
I consider myself at least intermediate when it comes to computing in general (on the self-taught scale) and even I'm afraid to try Linux. Why? I haven't seen it with my own eyes. If it impressed me, I might do what it takes to learn how to run it. Til then, I need idiot-ware just like the next guy. But my next desktop will be homemade with XP on it, that's for sure. 

 



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 Elle there are lots of live cd linux distros. You can try it out by running it right off your cd-rom w/o having to install anything. It's nice for giving it a test drive, or to see the differences between the various distros.

 

 

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