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Today I received this regarding Outlook Express accessing Hotmail accounts.  In addition to three POP email accounts, I have my Outlook Express configured to check seven Hotmail accounts.  According to this notice, that ability will end in June.  Bummer.  Guess I'll need to check out Windows Live.

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Dear Microsoft Outlook Express customer,

Thank you for using Microsoft® Outlook® Express. Our information indicates that you use Outlook Express to access a Windows Live™ Hotmail® e-mail account via a protocol called DAV (Distributed Authoring and Versioning protocol). DAV, like POP3 or IMAP, is the way that a mail client communicates with a web-based mail server.

As a valued customer, we want to provide advanced notice that as of June 30, 2008, Microsoft is disabling the DAV protocol and you will no longer be able to access your Hotmail Inbox via Outlook Express. As an alternative, we recommend that you download Windows Live Mail, a free desktop e-mail client that has the familiarity of Outlook Express and much more. This next generation of free e-mail software will allow you to easily manage multiple e-mail accounts—including Windows Live Hotmail, plus other e-mail accounts that support POP3/IMAP. Better yet, Windows Live Mail integrates well with other Windows Live services, and downloads in minutes. After you provide your user name and password, you will automatically be linked to your Hotmail account, providing continued access to your email and contacts.

We encourage you to download Windows Live Mail at http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview.

And, to make your transition smoother, we've provided answers to frequently asked questions below. 

Again, thank you for your use of Outlook Express and we are confident that you'll be just as delighted with the new Windows Live Mail.

Your Windows Live Mail team

Frequently asked questions:

Why are we disabling DAV?

DAV is a legacy protocol that is not well suited for client access to large inboxes. Over time, as we've provided more e-mail storage to our users—and now offer 5GB inboxes for free—a more efficient access protocol is needed.

What are we replacing DAV with?

We have developed a new, much more efficient protocol called DeltaSynch that is far superior to DAV especially for large e-mail inboxes. It enables email clients to only download changes since the last time the client polled the email server for changes. This is much more efficient and high performing than having to download all the headers in every folder as is the case with DAV.

Is DeltaSynch compatible with Outlook Express?

The new protocol unfortunately is NOT supported by Outlook Express and support would require too many changes to the Outlook Express software.

Is there a different or new mail client I can try that uses DeltaSynch?

Microsoft is providing Windows Live Mail, a free e-mail client that has the familiarity of Outlook Express and much more. This free, next generation email client  enables users to easily manage multiple e-mail accounts including Windows Live Hotmail and other e-mail accounts that support POP3/IMAP. Windows Live Mail also integrates well with other Windows Live services, is optimized to work with Windows Live Hotmail, and offers: 

  • Offline mail
  • Windows Live Hotmail account aggregation for those users with multiple Hotmail accounts
  • Account aggregation for POP and IMAP mail accounts
  • Rich photo-sharing capabilities
  • Advanced search via integration with Desktop Search
  • Safety tools (Anti-Virus scanning, anti-phishing, anti-spam features across aggregated accounts for customers who do not have an Anti-Virus product)
  • Integration with Windows Live services including Windows Live Spaces
  • RSS (Real Simple Syndication) feed aggregation
  • Ability to send SMS (short message service) text to a mobile phone from Windows Live Mail

Where can I download the new Windows Live Mail client?

You can download the new client at http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview.

Microsoft respects your privacy. To learn more, please read our online Privacy Statement.

Microsoft Corporation, One Microsoft Way, Redmond, WA 98052



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Re: All good things come to an end...

All hail thunderBird! Laughing out loud



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Re: All good things come to an end...

Almost Evil wrote:
All hail thunderBird! Laughing out loud
Will ThunderBird do Hotmail?



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Re: All good things come to an end...

Yup! You can configure TB to grab any mail ya want. I love it!



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Re: All good things come to an end...

i have not yet received this notice. do you think it is only being sent to those with more than one account?

 

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Re: All good things come to an end...

It's apparently being sent only to those that have been using their Hotmail accounts as folders in Outlook Express.  I have 7 Hotmails that I use for different purposes and it's real convenient to have them checked by one email client.

These accounts were termed "legacy" accounts because I had OE configured to check them before the cutoff a few years ago.  Microsoft stopped OE's ability to access Hotmail but those that were already doing it, could continue for the time being as "grandfathered" accounts.  Well the time being is gone.



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Re: All good things come to an end...

Do you have regular Outlook?  I have four POP accounts, two gmail and a hotmail account all going to Outlook.  Maybe regular Outlook would work for you?



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Re: All good things come to an end...

That's odd that the protocol won't be compatable with OE but would work with Outlook.  Yeah.. I've got Outlook available but I chose to not install it in all my MS Office installs because OE always did great.  I went ahead and installed Windows Live Mail and I like it.  Accepts all Hotmails (grandfathered or not) and it does everything OE did and then some.  RSS feeds even.



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Re: All good things come to an end...

I used OE for a long time but then read somewhere that it was more prone to viruses.  Not sure if that's true or not, but I switched to regular Outlook many moons ago and am just used to it now.



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Re: All good things come to an end...

 You can forward gmail into outlook (easy).  So what you can do if you want is open gmail accounts - forward the hotmail into the gmail and the gmail pop forward to outlook.  Now granted you will reply via gmail but you can set up a signature that you changed your hotmail to a gmail account so that your contacts can change your email addy.  That way if you DO want to keep outlook you can and no worries of loosing email on the hotmail accounts.  It's just a though.

 

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Re: All good things come to an end...

Is there any way to check multiple hotmail accounts at once from a website
when using public computer ? I use Windows Live Mail at home.
i use FLURRY on my cell phone which used to be much better than it is
now but it still works. Any suggestions for public computers ?
Thanks